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In the market for a big widescreen monitor, but find 24" too small and 30" too big? Dell has you covered with their 27" 2707WFP. Like their 2407WFP, this monitor offers 1920x1200 with a 6ms GTG and has a brushed aluminum look that's unique to their entire lineup.
You can read the full review here and discuss it here.
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Looks like a solid monitor. I was hooked at CES with the design of the monitor and it looks right at home on your bench. The price is about right too. Solid review!
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What type of panel does it have?
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Hey great article on what appears to be a really great monitor, however, I was wondering one thing? My 20-inch Samsung that I will, hopefully, upgrade soon has me really spoiled rotten. The 2 mm response time and the 2000:1 contrast ratio has me hooked. Will I notice a real difference if I were to replace it with the Dell with only a 1000:1 contrast ratio? A sales person told me that humans can't really notice anything over 1000:1 anyway. Is that true?
All-in-all, the Dell looks swell and a worthy consideration for a replacement. Its just that Samsung's performance and what-all, has me really spoiled. I'm partial to Apple's 30 inch, but my pocket book isn't, and we all know that Dell monitors are just as good, and better priced. Wait, my Samsung is calling me........
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LoL, good one.
![]() I mean, is it a TN, MVA, PVA, IPS, etc?
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The larger you go with a monitor though, the higher the response rate will be. Dell assures me that they are working towards producing large monitors with even lower response rates. Apples and Dells 30" are very comparable, and it wouldn't surprise me of they both use the same panel. The difference is, as you say, that the Apple is more expensive, but it also looks better. Sorry man, I have absolutely no idea. Let me contact Dell and find out for you. Will let you know once I hear back.
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Happen to have a link that explains the differences between them all?
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Here are a few I just found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth...-guide_27.html
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Thanks man.
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How much ambient lighting do you have in your computer room / office? The 2000:1 is ideal on paper, and might actually produce brighter, more vibrant colors, but unless your room is void of all ambient lighting, you -might- not even notice a difference unless one monitor was directly beside the other. I am currently using a Dell 2407WFP 24" and I couldn't be happier. With that said though, I also have a pair of 19" Dell monitors on either side of my 24" and with their 700:1 contrast ratio, I can notice a significant difference between the two types of monitors. As for what you were told about humans not being able to see any discernible difference above 1000:1, I don't know if I trust that or not and unfortunately, I don't have any monitors above the 1000:1 mark to test this theory out.
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Great review, my friend. Those were some of the clearest pictures of the 2707wfp that i've yet to find anywhere.
I've been using an apple cinema display 23" with my PC since 2003 and was looking for a possible upgrade. With it's great styling, price and same resolution of 1920x1200 this monitor just might fit the bill. I was wondering, did you experience any issues with heat-output during your testing? The CNET reviewer stated that the heat output of the 2707wfp actually made him woozy, something which sounded puzzling - wouldn't the 30" dell be giving off a significantly more amount? Yet to date I haven't heard anyone mention heat issues with the 30" models of any brand (Dell, Apple, HP, etc) Also, since the displays is 3-4" larger than current 24 and 23 inch widescreen displays, did you notice anything going on with the text? I.e. was the pixel pitch larger and grainy, or did everything look ok? |
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Hi Stretch,
Heat is an odd one, I don't recall running into an issue like that. The backside of the monitor can hit upwards of 47C, but I never sat there thinking it was too hot. Granted, this room is 80F - 88F on any given day, so I might not have noticed it. I have a Samsung 275T here, which is quite similar, and it runs warm in the back as well. The only real problem I had with the Dell monitor was being left with a headache after a long gaming session, but that was thanks to the fact that I sat within two feet to it. The pixel pitch is a little bit higher on the 27" monitor when compared to your 23" or Dell's 24", but it never came off to me as being a problem. It's not perfect, but it wasn't bad for the size of the screen and the resolution. As a comparison, the 27" monitor has a 0.303mm pixel pitch while their 30" has one of 0.250mm, so there might be a noticeable difference between the two. Samsungs 275T has the same pixel pitch, and chances are they are almost identical in every other way, except the 275T has a higher luminance at 500cd/m2.
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Hi, I am wondering if anyone with this monitor has experienced any 'creaky" noises coming from the frame at any point. I absolutely love mine, but am finding that after 1 month of having it, it is starting to creak.
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