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As you could probably imagine, companies approach us often regarding review ideas for products of all stripes, from motherboards to graphics cards to chassis' to whatever else is technology-related. Over the course of the past year, though, there's one product-type that really seems to have caught on, and a week doesn't go by when we're not thrown some review ideas for them. What could I be talking about?
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I used an Antec notebook cooler on my DTR laptop... the DDR2 RAM underneath had no active cooling and so the machine was borderline on being to warm to even keep in my lap comfortably... and forget about being anywhere near the RAM modules.
Unfortunately Antec's notebook cooler was pretty cheap, and the fans wore out in just a year. Due to their warranty policy I didn't have the receipt (nor could I get another) from where I originally bought the thing, This combined with the build quality on their cooler (and what I've seen of other notebook coolers) has pretty much left me with the impression all notebook coolers are pretty worthless, even in situations such as mine where it had a large impact on cooling the memory modules I no longer consider them worth the money. Most laptops today tend to run much cooler, especially the power efficient ones, so they especially aren't needed.
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I agree with most of your points, although I do think that even some new notebooks could benefit from active cooling. Even the low-powered HP dv2 I have here gets pretty warm after a while (I wasn't expecting that at all). Still, it seems like more of an inconvenience than anything to use one, and there's no extreme draw. Even if your notebook did burn up, I really can't see a notebook cooler making much of a difference.
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I didn't write down the numbers (cooler was bought during a 2005 CompUSA black friday sale for $5) so I can't give them. As I best I remember the memory modules saw 10c+ drops in temps just from a tiny bit of airflow. The way the machine is built the heat from the DDR2 modules goes straight up into the center of the motherboard and into the chassis... so cooling the memory modules down did affect temps for everything else to a small degree.
Not the best image, but imagine those two memory modules putting out a ballpark figure of 50W of heat. Under the machine, just a few millimeters above a desk. The heat buildup after an hour is incredible. Link to photo
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Coolermaster makes one that would have been perfrct for that laptop... the X1.
Puts a fan dead center on the laptop. They have another model I believe that has the venting to the sides for the laptops that have their intakes more towards the edges. I may be reviewing one of the side discharge units (as I have 2 Dells whose intakes are on the back corners), and I will let you know what I find out. I've always wondered myself too.... ![]() -=TD
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I believe most are powered by USB from the notebook/netbook. And the main concern is not cooling, but battery usage. If you have one of the large notebooks that do generate a lot of heat, then the battery life REALLY goes to pot.
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To some extent, yes. But nobody should need to be running a notebook cooler when on battery power... when on battery power mine automatically underclocks the GPU and I configured it to underclock and undervolt the CPU as well. I'd love to do the same to the RAM, but that's just not possible without the BIOS options to do so.
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Notebook coolers are a JOKE... Yeah I know, "tell us what you really think". 90% of the cooling problems I've seen on notebooks are "user induced"... using the things on a bed or couch where the vents are blocked, holding them on your lap, where the fan intake is blocked... etc. One customer even taped over the hot air exhaust complaining it bothered his hand while "mousing"... then tried warranty claims when it cooked the CPU and finally came to me to fix it. If you want a little extra cooling for your notebook: 1) use it sensibly... on hard surfaces, keeping the airflow vents clear 2) Keep it clean... it takes only a few seconds to brush the dust out of the vents every so often. 3) if you want extra cooling... put a ruler under the back legs. There seems little or no reason to spend $20 to $150 for something you can fix with a bit of simple common sense.
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Even in his case though, I'm highly doubtful a notebook cooler would make an ounce of difference.
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Then again, there were a bunch of laptops put out that did normally run extremely hot... Fortunately they got the message and started working on lower powered CPUs and GPUs for laptops. AMD's latest offerings are using less than half the power they used only 2 years ago... and that's a giant step in the right direction.
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